Add a PVP Mode toggle option to take llDamage anywhere at any time
Grave Resident
Currently you can only take llDamage in damage enabled parcels. Obviously this is ideal to keep players who do not want to take damage or die safe, but could you add an opt in option to choose to allow damage to affect your avatar at all times anywhere while enabled?
This would mean that players could "turn on PVP" and engage in damage systems anywhere in SL, on any parcel, opening a huge amount of potential for combat focused communities to expand.
Those that leave this "PVP Mode" disabled would not be affected by this change at all, and would remain safe unless they chose to toggle it on and jump into the action.
Maybe avatars with PVP enabled would display it above their name and group tag, for example:
(PVP)
ECHELON
Grave
Maybe a PVP enabled avatar dot on the minimap would have a small additional red ring around the dot.
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Skullphern Resident
An idea: make it attached to certain groups, so if you wear a group tag, you enable combat, and can just detach the group tag to opt out of combat.
LUCIFER696 Dastardly
I think your idea is awesome, I'd love to have that option... Is there a online partition we can sign to get Linden labs to do it??
IceCold Skytower
don't ignore that people can script their own NPCs and hazards that can also deal damage, not just the guns on avatars, and avatars may also deal damage in many other ways. this is not just "PVP" it is more like a personal toggle for damageability
Nexii Malthus
This would be great, could that also be inherited by the owner's objects? So that the owner's avatar and their objects all become flagged as DAMAGEABLE and can process damage.
There might also need to be consideration for a cooldown to deactivating PVP if they do opt into it or if they have recently received damage, so that they can't just toggle it mid-combat for an unfair advantage.
A minor aside it is not possible to just tell on demand if an avatar or object is DAMAGEABLE as there is no OBJECT_TYPE, so a sensor/collision would have to be used. Therefore checking if an avatar, such as on a timer in a HUD, to see if an enemy avatar beyond the sensor distance still has PVP active or has deactivated it during combat would be tricky.
Grave Resident
An additional note after some feedback:
- PVP Mode should never override damage enabled parcels. If damage is enabled, all avatars should still take damage, even if someone has PVP Mode disabled.
- It would be ideal if a player without PVP Mode toggled on in a parcel with damage disabled, they should not be able to damage anyone. Only PVP Mode enabled players should be able to damage each other in parcels with damage disabled. This will avoid someone that is safe damaging someone that is not.
- Some people worry about the annoyance of players bothering them by doing combat on their land. The general argument is for the land owners to moderate their land as usual with unwanted activities.
ST33LDI9ITAL Resident
Would be cool, but it depends on having damage enabled since that's what LLCS depends on.. further depending on having rez enabled.... If llcs or combat 2.0 was expanded to handle castray as well then something like this would be even more beneficial.
Would love to see it one day though, for sure!
Icra Nosferatu
ST33LDI9ITAL Resident great news: llDamage() already enables rezless use of LLCS(2), it is up to the scripter to determine how or if the user has line of sight on the intended target.
ST33LDI9ITAL Resident
Icra Nosferatu Ohhh yea.. forgot all about llDamage! Still need rez though for a lotta fx and extras... clusters etc.
Kinda Vile
A huge concern here would be that if you have "PvP enabled" on a region that is completely away from the combat scene, this would be seen as a nuisance by those residents having to hear constant gunfire, and may also lead to groups forming raid parties in regions that have nothing to do with combat.
Region owners should 100% be able to disable this in the region panel if this becomes a feature, and most likely will if given that option.
Grave Resident
Kinda Vile I agree, allowing land owners to opt out of allowing PVP Mode players would be fine.
But also keep in mind, 90% of SL is abandoned, so the chances of PVP Mode players bothering real players up in skyboxes is not going to be high.
Dae Dismantled
You have my vote!
Red2Blaze Resident
I do feel maybe if this is to have an option, should also have a sim option to completely disable it on some sims
Some places may not be interested to have people coming in to do battle on them, and may wish to keep this off regardless of visitors interest
Over all I do feel that be neat for many places
Grave Resident
Red2Blaze Resident Yeah I can see your point about that. If there was a land option for disallowing the PVP Mode players, I would hope it would be allowed by default, otherwise the point of this feature would be voided.
Red2Blaze Resident
Grave Resident Ya.. or else its basically almost back to stage 1 :P
Will also say they could maybe do it as a sort of "experience" that is default enabled on all sims and can be disabled maybe or something of that sort
lauranah Sirnah
This is such a good idea! I love it!
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