Ability to Change Group Name
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Skatoulaki Strange
I created a group several years ago for my store, and I wish I had the ability to change the group name (to remove brackets, change a word, etc.). I'd even be willing to pay a small fee for this (similar to changing my avatar name, but maybe payable in Lindens...like paying to partner/unpartner).
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Skyler Goode
I inherited a group with a misspelling and wish I had the ability to correct it.
hinaichigo Xaris
This request has been posted in this forum 99999 times.
I agree it's a good idea.
However, there’s an important risk to consider: one day you could join a group called “Kitty Lovers”, and later the owner could rename it to “People Against Ukraine”. You might walk around for weeks without noticing the change, still wearing the group tag or appearing in the group list.
That kind of abuse is the main reason why changing group names is problematic.
Roman Godde
This is a great idea. When will this be put into progress?
Samson Rowley
I agree wish we all could change group name
steph Arnott
Will not happen, LL made it immutable the same as your primary screen name.
Auhrii Resident
steph Arnott You do realise database schemas can be modified and there's a concept called "downtime", right?
steph Arnott
Auhrii Resident, incorrect, LL are subject to international laws. Maybe you should study those laws instead of using terms like 'downtime'?
Auhrii Resident
steph Arnott What are you on about? International laws? For databases governing group naming on a private platform? Name the laws.
steph Arnott
Auhrii Resident, because of banking laws. Get into the 21st century, America is not the world.
Auhrii Resident
steph Arnott First, I'm not American. Second, banking laws don't govern group names on social platforms at all, you're totally full of shit.
steph Arnott
Auhrii Resident, talk to LL directly because you clearly know more than a multi milion dollar company.
Seattle LeShelle
I agree and wish I had the exact same ability!!
Cooter Coorara
I second this. I have several defunct groups for stores and businesses I've changed the name of. It would be nice to be able to delete these groups, but barring that, the ability to rename a group from Acme Realtors to Acme Land Sales would be great. If everyone could do that, think of how uncluttered SL searches would become.
Rowan Amore
Cooter Coorara
Rowan Amore that shows to go ya that LL moves at a snail's pace. As an old cobol programmer, this change would take me ten minutes, tops. I don't know what LL uses, but if it's a 4GL I can understand why.
steph Arnott
Cooter Coorara, actually, no, you could not and neither could LL without crashing the accounts database.
Cooter Coorara
steph Arnott I was VP of a software company. We had four divisions. Cobol (the original code of our software), Mapper (a Unisys 4GL(4th Generation Language)), Oracle, and informix. The 4 GL guys were always running to me telling me how impossible simple tasks were. Things that need to be done often in the real world, and should be easier if not totally unnecessary with a 4GL database, seemed to be an impossible task. If I had an end user request like changing group names, I know for Cobol it would be a simple matter. The 4GL folks would whine that it was impossible, but if it needed to be done, so be it. I never understood the purpose of 4GL if it can't do what Cobol can do easily. "Oh," they'd say, "look at how users can generate their own reports!". Right... reports that were usually wrong.
LL doesn't want to make key changes, such as the group name, because in Cobol terms that means knowing the file structure and all of the sub-files. In this example, change the group name and then change the user database, the parcel database, the names of everything rezzed in world, and so on. Since SL is up 24/7, that means taking it ofline for this major change. Say the change would take two hours to execute. How much does LL lose for being down two hours? What if the modification fails and the system tanks? Restore the backups, go back to the code, find the problem, and try again. To LL, saying "just make a new group" is more convenient for them, but does not address the original end user issue of changing the name.
LL's mistake was using things like group name as part of the key (Cobol brain here). Just like municipal tax software does not used street name as part of their database key, a generated parcel-ID is used. For Linden Labs, the system designer should have used a generated group key that is primary, and that would never need to be changed.
Your answer of "the accounts database would crash" is true if the patch software was written by C students, which is most of them. A change that affects the integrity of the database should be done by A students.
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Hello, and thank you for your feature request regarding the ability to change group names. This idea was previously brought up by another resident and is tracked under issue number BUG-228943 from Second Life's previous bug tracking system. We are merging your comments to help prioritize this feature. While we don't have an estimate on when it might be implemented, please keep an eye on future updates. We appreciate your input and hope you continue to share your ideas to help improve Second Life. Thank you!
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