Allow a user to log on Invisible
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Madi Melodious
Sometimes you just want to log in without anyone on your friends list knowing you are online. Put a button on the log in screen that will allow a user to log in and be invisible to anyone on your friends list for that session or till you change it.
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Cinnamon Mistwood
I would love the option to just log in on my own occasionally to just work on sorting inventory or to set up a backdrop for a picture or make an animation. I do think that if the option to log in as invisible should mean you are in a private instance, though, and lose the ability to interact with other avatars. If being invisible means you can't interact, then it is less likely to be abused by griefers running around "invisible" causing problems. It could be restricted to land owners as a membership perk. They can log into their own land and stay there to do whatever project they want without interruptions from friends and strangers. I'd pay extra for that. Just being invisible to your own friends list is not enough.
ConnieG Sorbet
In my opinion being invisible to that extent can create mistrust within friendships about your intentions. Friends or group members could feel confused or abandoned or worried their friend has RL problem or passed.
People could claim to never have seen or received an important group notice, or IM ie rent due or anything similar.
It could encourage spying on those that are not choosing to be invisible and attention seeking games.
I would opt for the auto response
" Sorry, in my own space right please do not disturb"
If it did come about though I would want the person being invisible to be void of seeing the presence of absolutely anybody else anywhere online.
Sylwia Obolensky
Oh no, i dont think thats a good idea. If you dont want to be bothered there is a the "busy" mode already. HIding from people is not ok.
Madi Melodious
Sylwia Obolensky Even with the busy option you still have people that will see you online and drop by to chat.
Sylwia Obolensky
Madi Melodiousyes ok but u can ignore, tell them or close your land etc.
Madi Melodious
Sylwia Obolensky I don't think you understand the nature of this request. That suggestion causes all the problems this request seeks to avoid.
Ysa Mayako
Sylwia Obolensky, it is absolutely okay for people to choose to not be bothered for whatever amount of time they wish, without having to explain themselves to other people - especially those who would think it's "not okay" to be expected to mind their own business and leave people alone, sometimes.
Sylwia Obolensky
Ysa Mayako I am allowed to have my opinion on this like anybody else. Still i am for honesty.
Ysa Mayako
Sylwia Obolensky, and I am for living a peaceful existence without having to explain oneself to twenty-seven different people, just because one wants some time alone. People who feel entitled to others' privacy, at any and all times, are annoying a.f. and partly the reason for so many of us wanting this feature to be made available to SL residents. We should all be afforded our private time, without people knowing we're online, if we so choose.
Sylwia Obolensky
Ysa Mayakothats ok. You can state your opinion. No need to convince me in my comment on the topic.
Solanghe Sarlo
Sylwia Obolensky While I appreciate your opinion, those of us who feel differently would like to have the option. I already use the 'busy' notification, it's not enough. The only reason my alt was born was for the sole purpose of allowing me to have some true alone time when online without the chance of hurting someone's feelings. We shouldn't have to do that. Most social media platform and forum, etc. has a "show offline" option. If you don't want to use it, you can choose not to.
Sylwia Obolensky
Solanghe Sarlo yes, thats fine with me. i am not having a say in the decision if LL will give that option or not. i simply stated my opinion. you dont need to convince me ♥
Solanghe Sarlo
Sylwia Obolensky Not trying to "convince" you, merely stating my own opinion. We having a discussion. :)
Jvk1166z Resident
Sylwia Obolensky sometimes people dont want to be insta messaged by people wanting to lewd with them every time they log in, for instance. hiding from people is totally okay, if it's not okay with you, remove the person hiding from you. if you have lots of people hiding from you, that might be reason to review your own behaviour.
00 Python
i have a friend who is online nearly 24/7 who will- without fail invite me to hang out in no rez sims when i log in explicitly to work on things that need to be rezed. if i don't take their invite they think I'm mad at them and get all huffy. while I do have an alt I would rather not have to resort to having 3 instances of SL open at once just to work on something and not upset my old friend (the 3 being main account, main account on the test grid for file verification purposes because i am awful with versioning, and alt account on the main grid in a sandbox).
Jvk1166z Resident
00 Python THIS, i get the same thing but instead with horny people that literally just goon 24/7. it's obnoxious that some people will literally, without fail, message me immediately when i log on, and get upset when i'm 'always busy'. like, i play this game to do many other things than just goon all day, but people like that take a busy response or being ignored as an insult and get upset. it's like they view me as a sex toy and get upset when their toy has free will. i can and do remove people for behaving like that, but sometimes it would be nice to appear offline to everyone on login so that i can get shit done without being bothered. especially because some of the people that message me like that aren't necessarily rude/entitled people, and may just want to tp me like in your case, to actually hang out, and not the 'wanna hang out?😛' that's just code for 'wanna fuck?', but actually hang out, and they're just really oblivious to how annoying they are. then i come across as being rude to inform them that maybe sniping people the instant they log in, before they've even gotten off of the loading screen, is a bit annoying.
Dictatorshop Resident
I added this to the older feedback system over 17 years ago (with my main alt) and it sat open for pretty much all the years until this new feedback system took over. It is seriously annoying that it is impossible to be truly invisible on log in.
I would actually like a dev environment I could log into that would set me completely aside from SL, no group notices, no IMs, nothing. Just log in and work blissfully unaware of the world around.
Then when I was ready to deal with the world I could leave that little protected pocket world and get on with things (with all of my work showing in my regular inventory). Given that it is clearly technically infeasible for LL to make us invisible on log in, this little pocket space we could work in seems like it could be put in front of all that other stuff to create a true invisibility. just a thought. Perhaps as a enticement to premium plus?
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Nya Jules
While there are legit reasons to log in invisible, there would also be downsides to it. The easier you make it for a user to appear invisible (like a checkbox on the login screen), the more people will use it without a real reason but simply because they can control who they're gonna speak with in this session.
I compare this to the away/invisible status in the old ICQ days where in the end everyone on your list was at least in "away" mode even if they were present, simply because it made them not feel the need to respond in time to everyone. It became a habit, also for me. I suppose it's similar to Discord nowadays. Both in ICQ and Discord you at least had the "away" mode that users could "fall back" to, instead of having to go for the nuclear invisible option.
In the end it could lead to not so few users defaulting to invisible and making everyone's friends lists smaller.
Skot Kinsella
Nya Jules, this should be up to each individual user though, how they log on, and who sees them. Some people get absolutely massacred at log in, or need time to respond to previous DMs. I do not see a downside to each user having the ability to log in invisible if they want.
Kyrah Abattoir
Not the worst idea, SL already does it sometimes on accident lol.
jackiewallace Resident
It can be a good idea, but at this moment your online status is separated. 1. Agent online status in viewer. 2. Agent online status in scripts -> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlRequestAgentData
oOPanChanOo Resident
you have the option to turn it of in your freiendslist
Solanghe Sarlo
oOPanChanOo Resident Yes, but if you are in the same groups, they can still see if you are online in the group info if member list is available.
Jvk1166z Resident
Solanghe Sarlo this feature also has the tendency to break for me, i stopped even trying to mass toggle online status perms on my friendslist years ago because it broke and people just got stuck on offline mode for no reason.
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