Evaluate if Discord's Osprey/Roost might curb groupchat spam
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Peter Stindberg
Discord just made their suspicious-behavior tool open source:
Osprey is a high-performing rules engine for real-time event processing and behavioral analysis. It can ingest any platform event, such as login attempts, content posts, account creations, or custom actions unique to their service, and run them through rules that detect and respond to emerging threats in real time, not weeks. Safety and security teams can write expressive rules in a simple language, deploy new rules without any engineering dependencies, and get immediate, transparent decisions on whether something is safe, suspicious, or malicious.
Groupchat spam is not only a nusiance, it's also a security risk with phishin links posted on a regular basis. Instead of inventing the wheel twice, I'd like the Lab to look into option of including Osprey for exactly that: detect suspicious patterns in groupchat.
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Maestro Linden
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Zalificent Corvinus
This has a bunch of "Red Flags" for me.
First, the "Online Safety" dog-whistle...
When one hears that, 9 times out of 10m, it's some fun hating puritan killjoy trying to "protect me" from things their ancient book of religious fairy tales said nomadic sheep bandits hated, 3000 years ago.
Second, automated systems for detecting "spam" smacks of "Artificial Idiocy", which is the VERY LAST THING that should be added to SL.
A police force in Utah tried using AI to filter cop bodycam footage to assist with writing incident reports...
"Officers Dumbass and Retard entered the property, where Officer Dumbass was turned into a frog..."
AI's response to a cop's body cam seeing a poster of a frog on a wall.
The idea that we "need" some coded routine snooping on our group chats to see if we post links... With NO guarantee that it won't ban us for posting links to the SL MP in a shopping channel, or to a web gallery for snapshots of SL stuff in use, or gyazo's when asking for help with a problem.
Third, is the whole "monitoring activity" mallarky, this is basically calling for the use of some Big Brother Data-Scrape App, which is a HARD PASS.
Fourth, you CAN'T protect stupid people from being stuupid, it just makes them MORE stupid.
Fifth, it's from Discord, so hell no.
Sixth, "security risk", there's another dog-whistle, when ever some "well meaning fascist do-gooder" wants introduce a new way to piss down our backs and tell us it's raining, they always claim it's for...
"...a safe and secure society..."
Just before they retreat into their bunker and cackle to them selves "POWER! Unlimited POWER! Bwahahahahahahaha..."
Sorry Emperor Palpatine but...
Lets NOT and say we did.
Aubrey Bloodrose
I would not be comfortable having something made by discord process ANYTHING, for all you know they're still dumping data to persona
Pepsi Pixels
Anything that helps provide a more robust secure front is a boon.
Although Discord has more than it's fair share of security issues
Also shouldn't LL utilise and fix it's own group problems or come up with a new stable in-house alternative? DIscord takes group activity away from LL. Not everyone wants to link both due to the security comprises. Having had several data breach notices is discord, am all for bumped up protection
Peter Stindberg
Pepsi Pixels Osprey was made open source with others using it in mind. Why invent the wheel twice?
Yes, Discord is eating a lot into the group-aspect of SL, mostly because SL groups suck. But that's a whole different discussion.