Drake1 Nightfire
Wow, just those 5 huh? Thats not very inclusive of you.. What about:
They/them: A gender-neutral pronoun that can be used to refer to a single person
Ze/zir: A neopronoun that is pronounced "zee/zeer"
Ze/hir: A neopronoun that is pronounced "zee/heer"
Xe/xem: A neopronoun that is commonly pronounced "zee/zeer"
Fae/faer: A neopronoun that is commonly pronounced "fay/fair"
Ey/em/eir: A neopronoun that is commonly pronounced "aye/em/air"
Ae/aer: A neopronoun that is commonly pronounced "aye/air"
You just gonna leave those out? We have to be inclusive if we dont want to upset people..
Or, they could just put them in the about me section..
Vatz Lexico
very good idea
KiraYoichi Resident
This request can be solved with the use of resident profile text, to share gender identity.
Darl Pawprint
The ability to optionally view this information in nametags and/or in chat banners - as we already have with account usernames, would be an awesome addition to this functionality.
Chaser Zaks
I'm partially conflicted on this feature request, on one hand, it could just be put into the profile description field.
However I can see this being useful from a scripting perspective which I don't think people are seeing, in which is why I propose this being done from a standardized approach, in specific, provide it as a enum like so:
enum AgentGender_t
{
neutral = 0, // User prefers they/them
male = 1, // User prefers he/him
female = 2, // User prefers she/her
unspecified = 255 // User doesn't wish to disclose their gender
};
This could then be grabbed by a script api like
integer llGetAgentGender(key who)
This would solve the issue that arises from
OBJECT_BODY_SHAPE_TYPE
where a lot of male shapes may use the female default avatar, and scripts believe the avatar is female.This would also allow for automatic localization by pairing it with
string llGetAgentLanguage(key agent)
.However a problem here would be that if someone uses both male and female avatars, we might want to get the avatar they are using's gender. Which has me wonder if it would be worthwhile storing it as a attribute in the appearance shape, and when the appearance shape is worn, send a profile update request from the viewer.
I'm not going to beat around the bush here, I get that people see this as a politicized feature request, as people have pushed pronouns as a means of stirring political discourse. I personally am not in favor of those who intentionally try to cause discourse with it, however I see it as being a useful feature here if implemented in the right way.
Rizzy Khaos
Chaser Zaks Only 2 genders and 1 undisclosed?
Where are the other 62 genders?
And don't you dare say they go into the 1 undisclosed gender.
I agree with you on a scripting level this would make it more fun and more immersive but This is the can of worms that LL shouldnt open up.
No one is gonna be happy.
Zandrae Nova
Chaser Zaks Putting it in shape might be a good idea. I play in a sim that pulls shape sex data, and our femboys, masculine women, and non-human avatars are constantly getting misgendered.
It's weird seeing, "Bill has reset her meter." When Bill is a male TWI cat.
Coffee Pancake
Amazingly, this would be less work to add than has been expended in this thread attacking the idea and its proponents.
Cloud Python
There's no possible way this could be paired with OBJECT_BODY_SHAPE_TYPE to create some unintended consequences...
Ares6609 Titian
this is so stupid. There are so many more important things to focus on and not waste time on this nonsense. You have your whole profile to write what ever you want already if it is that important to you.
Buca0000 Resident
I simply don't care what pronouns others are using. If i am speaking to someone on a personal basis or regularly, chances are that I will become familiar enough to know preferences-including pronouns. If I casually happen upon someone by chance; it isn't necessary that I know all the details. Many times, with all the variations and mods, it isn't even clear what species an avatar is, let alone accompanying pronouns. If an individual NEEDs to announce to the SL grid what pronouns are preferred; then delete some of the other information in the profile and announce it there. RL is complicated enough, SL need not duplicate it!
Andromeda Quonset
how about a scenario where my pronoun is <pronoun> ?
Kuuko Shan
Andromeda Quonset it would be an empty field where you could write whatever. Or not write anything if you don't want to. It is not meant to force people to choose a pronoun, it's more like a dedicated place for those who wants or feels the need to.
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