The ability to have those that you block also not see your chat or hear you.
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Polyhistor Serpente
I would like to have the ability to have blocks that work both ways. That way not only can I not see their voice or text chat but it would also prevent them from reading my chat or hearing my voice.
When I block someone I generally do not want them to communicate with me. Including through communicating with others about what I am saying in a public location. Logging my text chat for use on third party sites or copied to another chat. I just generally don't want them to exist in SL for me, that includes them interacting with my interactions with other residents in public in an indirect way.
I think if blocking also blocked them from seeing or hearing my messages that would resolve most of this.
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RedPandaCakes Resident
I support this. It’s frustrating that even if you block the owner and object of an advertising service, you still receive messages from them. Blocking should apply to all communications so that blocked users or objects can’t send you messages see and hear you while still allowing necessary functions like security orbs to operate so it can still remove you. Right now blocked users can still see and hear you, but you can’t see them, which allows spiteful individuals to manipulate what they perceive, potentially making it appear as though you breaking TOS, leading to false reports/termination. I’ve seen this happen to others and to myself. thankfully.. in my case was lifted. Sure have a button like we have already that can display blocked peoples messages. It would also be helpful to have one for visibility as well but working both ways.
TL;DR: when you block user make it so they also see what you see. a grey blob and no text/comunication"
Paul Hexem
Sure, the idea of blocking land owners so their security scripts don't work on me anymore sounds great.
SuchieGirl Resident
i support this. When i go no contact with someone because they are abusive and destructive, irl or online, i do not want them to have access to me, my information, or to even know if i still exist.
Alwin Alcott
I see advantages in it, but also a danger .. it means you can post, say and do nearly anything you want to talk and write about another without leaving a good right to complain about the abusive behaviour by the blocker. Same for malicious intents.. block and you'll not know who's targetting you for griefing.
Mister Acacia
A person should not be able to prevent a group moderator or land manager from seeing or hearing them. Such an option would defeat that moderator's and manager's ability to enforce group or land rules
Oil Supply
Mister Acacia Perhaps land owners/managers and group owners and managers can always be heard on the land or group they own or manage. Everywhere else, a ban should be bidirectional.
Mister Acacia
It isn't so much that moderators and managers should be heard, it's that moderators and managers (and owners) must be able to see and hear all others in those places they manage or moderate so they can perform any necessary rule enforcement. Mute me all you want, but don't restrict my ability to see or hear you in my groups or on my lands.
Holocluck Henly
Mister Acacia
Polyhistor Serpente has a good suggestion. Perhaps this is the last social platform that doesn't do this.
It should be a given that for anyone in a lead capacity - from an inworld group owner/mod to an estate manager or owner - such a block would be ineffective and overridden in those spaces.
Alwin Alcott
Holocluck Henly There are no other people than Lindens, in a lead position, every resident has the same.
SuchieGirl Resident
Mister Acacia in other platforms i have visited, they manage this by preventing you from accessing property owned or managed by a person you have blocked or who has blocked you.
Holocluck Henly
Alwin Alcott Then an estate owner can choose to evict someone for blocking them or their managers. Should be in their Covenant then.
Darling Brody
In order to prevent the person from seeing your public chat you would also need to prevent scripts owned by that person from seeing your public chat. if you are then able to prevent scripts too, you will run into a situation where a griefer will be able to block you in order to prevent your security scripts from functioning on them.
This is an issue we ran into many years ago where there is only so much that can be done from a technological point of view to manage people's behaviour, and those people need to be managed in other ways through abuse reports.
Christi Maeterlinck
Hear hear: excellent idea.
Kristy Aurelia
According to https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/english/blocking-r53/ "Likewise, a Resident on your Blocked List cannot hear or see voice or text chat or receive IMs from you. They are also unable to purchase items from your Marketplace store, if you have one."
SuchieGirl Resident
Kristy Aurelia They cannot send or receive IMs, but they can see anything you say in local chat and in groups.
Jamee Sandalwood
I agree. I also think if I block someone they should not be able to see my profile either, or search it.
Darling Brody
Jamee Sandalwood I agree that a blocked person should not be able to see your profile or your products in Marketplace or leave reviews for products they have previously purchased from Marketplace. I have experienced griefing through the marketplace reviews and the associated comments from people I blocked in world after they made a Nuance of themselves.
Randy Pole
Personally I am against this. If you are speaking in public and have blocked someone you should not have the ability to impact what they see or hear in public chat. You may want to not hear or see them for whatever reason but that does not mean they should not be able to see or hear you.
Bugs Larnia
Randy Pole That's fair. I think a two-tier setting might give more leeway. When you block a person, you can then decide whether they can still see your chat. That way, you can adapt your blocks to the situation at hand.
Rowan Amore
Randy Pole. I agree. This is a bad idea. You block the person and could then go on to say whatever you want about them while they no longer have the ability to hear what you say?
You walk into a store and some griefers are messing around, blocking you then saying whatever they want about you while you have no idea what is being said? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Darling Brody
Randy Pole it may also be very difficult to implement. It would mean the region needs to check every single person against a block list before sending text and sounds. The current implementation has the viewer simply filter out stuff that comes from people you have blocked. This new suggested implementation would have the region doing all of that work - for every voice, sound, spoken text, and script generated text or sound, between every single person on the region.
sprightlysprite Resident
Randy Pole It's already possible for you to IM everyone else and say whatever you want without including the blocked people. The only new threat here is recipients being unaware that this is what you are doing. I do agree that's an important gap, and if someone were to block others as a way to avoid letting them hear, the messages they send in that way should be marked so other listeners are aware someone is being excluded.
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