Adult rated Linden Homes
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Foulcault Mechanique
It would be nice to have a Adult rated linden homes so those premium members can have more options for what they place and where. Currently there are things that could be bought in SL that members could not place out cause they are listed as adult in nature and are meant to be used outdoors. Part of the selling points listed in the Linden Home information is "Customize Your Home -Furnish your home and decorate to reflect your tastes." There is no mention of being limited and would be nice to not be limited when advertised that way.
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Holocluck Henly
How has Horizons continent fared with regard to accommodating Adult Linden Home demands? While it does allow personal builds it also offers Linden prefabs for your parcel. Doesn't seem slated for deletion like Nacera.
steph Arnott
You can have adult stuff in your Linden home, you can not have adult stuff on public view.
Isabella Cinder
Strongly agree. Despite some ... I don't even know how to call them without being condescending ... comments in this thread that not only completely missed the point, are dowright selfrighteous, I strongly believe that, baseline, opening up options is part of all that pursuit of hapiness and self expression shitck.
misstoriblack Resident
You can already have adult content in your linden home. You just need to not open a sex club in your linden home and you're good.
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misstoriblack Resident Want to have things outside the home but on the land that are adult and not interested in opening a club.
Cuddles Supply
Foulcault Mechanique What are you trying to place that you think you can't? Are you sure you are tripping across the covenant rules regarding what can be placed outside (what some might consider ugly or distasteful like a gallows or guillotine (just examples) versus being tastefully adult like a shibari ring?
Has you been told to remove items from your yard?
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Cuddles Supply Yes I got told to remove these items by a Linden staffer who saw them. it was a dildo machine and a cage that had shibari erotic art on it.
Cuddles Supply
Foulcault Mechanique I would love to see some Linden Homes attached to Zindra for premium and premium plus with water access. Perhaps a loosening of restrictions on out door furnishings like the type you mentioned, but no businesses or clubs.
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AlettaMondragon Resident this was the same argument made when zindra/adult rating was made. I am not posting giant 50 foot flashing light strip club signs of naked women. The two things I got flagged on were a piece of historical erotic art posted outdoors as part of a larger sexual item (that is allowed, just not the art work) and two tiny dildoes attached to a larger item. Also the previous policy was NO sex or nudity outdoors period on your land until LL added the invisible avatar thing. I have good and open communication with my neighbors if they are having issues. Infact my resolution to this situation caused complaints right away but the adult items never have. The items flagged by LL have never been an issue with my neighbors. Also it is the appearance of sexual items...you can have sex in public so long as you have no rezzed sexualized objects. So a mattress with over 9000 sex animations is ok. A single dildo is not. Also the reason some of them were out there were because their placement was due to the environment and best placed outside in that situation. There is a floatie I love and want to put out in the linden water on my land but now would be forbidden cause it has sex lube icons and a dildo on it. The water was the reason I purchased the place. I would also flip the question back. What problem is there requesting and showing interest for Adult rated linden homes?
AlettaMondragon Resident
Foulcault Mechanique I wouldn't call it a problem. It could be done. It would be rather pointless though and that is what I was trying to point out. You won't be able to advertise it as a sex club or public hangout because LH must be strictly residential and technically unable to show in search. And as I pointed out, you can already do the very same things in a M rated LH, but only inside the house and a skybox. And yes, just because you have some loungers or anything in your front yard that contains sex poses, if the item's visuals don't contain sexually explicit features and the privacy setting to hide avatars is enabled on the parcel, as well as sound restriction in case the furniture or your HUDs would play sounds, you can have those outdoors. It is up to any Linden's discretion actually, but generally shouldn't be a problem. So I still don't know what advantage an Adult rated LH could have over the M rated ones, why should LL spend a lot of time, effort and money on making them, placing hundreds of regions in a secluded landmass instead of connecting existing parts of Bellisseria and Mainland (they won't put A rated regions next to M rated landmasses), most of which won't be sought after by many people because of reasons mentioned by others below. Gore, tasteless posters, certain deviant "kinks" that are too much for even those of us that are in fact active in the adult side of SL, and of course the constant possibility that random people will hit on you in IM while you're just sitting at home. On the other hand, it would make some sense to have all of you people with this certain desire move to a secluded A rated LH landmass and then the M rated ones would be safer in theory. Yet again you can have it in Zindra and Horizons regions already, so it still seems too redundant and pointless.
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AlettaMondragon Resident I am well aware of the adult ratings and how they different from the rest I was here when they made Adult rating. The issue is Adult rating is a new thing they had to make and so they had to make Zindra. They didn't have to make Bellisaria but they did to section off the premium homes from the main gride. They can just as easy make (and roll out with demand) an adult Linden Home grid just like they did Bellissaria. We aren't asking for much. We are asking to "Customize Your Home -Furnish your home and decorate to reflect your tastes." but are forced to do it in a system that won't allow us to do it because they put limitations of ratings on the system that they can fix (and could have from the start) by rolling out adult regions.
AlettaMondragon Resident
Foulcault Mechanique "The issue is Adult rating is a new thing they had to make and so they had to make Zindra."
I wouldn't call it new, it exists since 2009. Something that was done 16 years ago wouldn't be new in the real world either, but in SL it is ancient.
Horizons is one of the areas where the Lab tried to make something more civilized than classic mainland, in fact Zindra isn't much different either, but in Horizons you get pretty much the same as in a LH, and it's adult rated. Of course you need to buy the land and it doesn't come with a default house, but you get a roadside or even waterfront parcel, clearly laid out 32x32 plot, not many neighbors, and most importantly a double LI allowance.
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Zindra was the victim of the great recession as well as the Gaeta continents, and as a result it was never completed. If there is a growing need for adult rated land that Zindra and Horizons cannot supply for any reason, it would be a good idea to build adult rated LH regions in a way that would complete Zindra's southeastern and southwestern areas. For that one reason only it could be a good idea.
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AlettaMondragon Resident Sorry for calling it new. I don't keep track of time but arguing new or not seems silly as well. To me it is new cause it is the last real rating thing they did. I don't care where they make the adult land. I have lived on Zindra and on Mainland. At the end of the day it would be nice to have the option since they seem to be wanting to enforce the ratings. It limits people on wanting to put things out on their land and forces the use of skyboxes and other things for what they can hide. As for what you consider a good idea and what others consider to be a good seems to be different. I happen to think adding adult Linden Homes would be great for many reasons. It just seems there is a difference of opinions.
AlettaMondragon Resident
Foulcault Mechanique It is a matter of practicality as well, whether or not to start building hundreds of regions just so you can have a LH where you can rez dildos outside the house. Labeling this as freedom of self expression is even funnier, but oh well. Technically those LH regions could go to many other places where they would be much more useful but in that case they cannot be adult. It seems like your priority is that you should be able to have your dildos in places where others can see them from outside your land. This is why I said Zindra and Horizons already provide what you need.
AlettaMondragon Resident
Foulcault Mechanique "Customize Your Home -Furnish your home and decorate to reflect your tastes."
So your tastes would require you placing sexually explicit content outdoors in public view, as in the front yard of your Linden Home, on your porch, etc?
As all Linden Home regions are Moderate rated, you can have sexually explicit content inside the house and in a skybox. You can invite anyone over to do whatever you want, as long as the invitations are private and not "publicly promoting sexual activity or content".
Linden Homes cannot be featured in Places Search, so the promotion in public part is quite irrelevant anyway. This means the only thing that you can't do on your Moderate rated LH parcel is to place sex furniture and other sexually explicit or other "prohibited" material outside the house, for example gore, extreme violence and some other things also must not be placed in public view in non-adult regions. One must be some serious deviant to want to place such things in public view. In fact despite the stereotypes, Zindra and Horizons have less such content outdoors than people expect, even though they could have them right by the roads. This all boils down to decency after all.
You know, those Zindra and Horizons parcels are still there though, and do just the same as any other adult rated land would, so you don't need to have an adult rated LH, you can own land in Zindra or Horizons anytime.
REDROSE Blossom
I agree that should be a lot easier with regard to the Linden houses, so that the residential communities there are also lively when there is hardly anyone there, and yes as for more decoration options would also be nice, something different, Linden labs must adhere to the USA law regarding adulthood, General and moderate is really meant so that parents with children can safely go through SL, that is why the Adult zones are intended for sex activities, my advice is also only to do Erotic actions in Adult zones and places, Linden labs cannot do otherwise it is the American law, that is why the Linden houses are set up in this way to prevent problems that For example a child enters a Linden house and comes across a BDSM room there, the person involved then really has a problem, because if that happens several times banishment from SL follows and really you can no longer get on with your account, I think the House security of Linden labs should be left as it is, as far as accessibility is concerned it could be a bit easier are.
Hyacinth Ravenwood
I think it makes sense to have adult rated linden home sims. The majority of users are adults and a heck of a lot of them want the freedom to express themselves openly. For a lot of users the linden homes are useless because of the restrictions.
Ophelia Nightwish
I definitely agree. We are adults as such, we should be allowed to have Adult region Linden Homes so we are more free to be ourselves or have whatever art of the walls/in the yard we'd like
Ikaros Alpha
Ophelia Nightwish If only they wouldn't cram the regions so full of homes... In the past 'adult' was defined not only by erotics but also 'extreme violence'. Imagine your romantic erotic home having a nearby neighbour who delights in having zombie slaughter scenes on the roof... I'd have to do an awful lot of derendering in Firestorm.
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Ikaros Alphathen you can talk to your neighbors and attempt to see if you all come to a conclusion. That is what my neighbors did if they had issues with me on the M land. Heck I had to do it on M and A cause of clubs and their patrons landing on my property and being rude.
Ikaros Alpha
Foulcault Mechanique I'm just pointing out that different perceptions exist of what should be 'adult'.
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Ikaros Alpha yeah and I lived that way for years in Zindra until LL raised their prices. Also you have the option of moving linden homes if you and your new neighbors cannot come to an agreement which is alot easier than when you have to buy the land and a bad neighbor moves in.
AlettaMondragon Resident
Ikaros Alpha It's not really a matter of perception but this: https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/english/maturity-ratings-r52/#Section__1_4 You are right, "representations of intensely violent acts, for example depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm, whether or not photo-realistic" is still adult content. So you can bet on that you'd get a neighbor with a death camp around their house in an adult rated LH sooner or later.
Ikaros Alpha
Foulcault Mechanique If only we could just locate a free home and "click" get it. But even when I was Premium Plus it took too long to contact someone to get a specific one because of timezones. (I gave up on Premium Plus after Vix Linden was suddenly exit and the extra concierge service evaporated.)
Antoinette Lioncourt
As previously mentioned, as a paying Premium Member, I'm surprised I can't limit access to friends/group members! The only way I can restrict access is by banning people manually. How do I manage that when even that's limited and anyone and everyone can just wander in? There have been numerous occasions I've had to eject people as often they won't leave voluntarily. We shouldn't have to spend extra L$'s on a security system and then mess with that when giving temporary access.
Webbi Jonson
Antoinette Lioncourt: There's a security orb in the mailbox menu where you can also change houses, specifically for the Linden Homes. Simply send this to yourself and rezz it and then Simply add your friends there, and everyone who isn't a friend will be kicked out.
Antoinette Lioncourt
Webbi Jonson Thanks for informing me, but stuff like this should be more obvious!
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