Imsu Resident
Just wanted to weigh in and say that conferences have been broken for over a year now with these issues. It can happen on any region (worse on busier ones but not exclusive to).
Every single one of my friends has the same problem, it’s just part of everyone’s experience now I think.
I think 1 in every 3 conferences is broken if I was to average it, in that either people don’t join or it includes people that you didn’t invite. My friends and i always joke about who will be the surprise guest in the next conference.
If I remember correctly it was noted by LL at the time so we’ve just been patiently waiting for a fix. But yeah just wanted to back up Bodhi and let you know that this is a grid-wide issue that has rendered conferences mostly inoperative for a long time now.
Maestro Linden
Testing further, I do see IM delivery failures to agents logged into 'Desert Moon'. Aside from ad hoc conference and group chat failures in all cases, IMs from friends in remote regions are being routed as offline messages.
I'm still not able to reproduce the arrival of extra/unexpected avatars after creating a text conference.
Maestro Linden
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Maestro Linden
Hi Bodhi Osbourne can you elaborate on the steps to reproduce this issue?
For the case where you try to start a conference chat with 2 other people but get a different set of 15 people, how are you starting the chat? Are the 15 other agents which accidentally appear in your conference chat in your friends list, nearby, or are they total strangers?
I tried this, and am not immediately hitting any issues on the same region with Second Life Release 26.1.0.22641522367:
- Login with 3 viewers: UserA, UserB, UserC, each to a different start location
- UserA: Go to region 'Desert Moon' (which currently has 48 avatars present)
- UserA: Open 'People' -> 'Friends', Ctrl-select UserB and UserC, and select "IM" from the right click context menu
- Observe the 'Conversations' floater now has a new 'Multi-person chat', which shows UserA, UserB, UserC when expanded
- UserA: send a message to 'Multi-person chat'
- Observe that UserB & UserC see the new conference appear message from UserA, and that they both see UserA, UserB, UserC in the participants list
- UserB, UserC: send messages to the chat
- Observe the messages appear to all 3 users
- UserB, UserC: go to UserA's busy region and send more messages
- Observe the messages appear to all 3 users
Bodhi Osbourne
Maestro Linden thanks for the reply.. This isnt limited to this server alone. It is always at places that are very busy. Sometimes u might start a confernedce and no ones in it.. You then manually add them all again... at some point what you type, you cant see but other can... leaning the affected server and returning fixes that temporraily.
We usually end up creatiung text channels in discord just to communicat as a group of friends.
The other issue we have here also is that when we are there friends not there (at other places) see us as offline. Not only that we cant communicate with them and they cant communicate with us. If we relog and say loig into our home location we get a rush of messages that people might have attempted to send us while at the busy venue.
Bodhi Osbourne
I start the chat my selecting multiple people from my friend list and then right click and choose send IM
Bodhi Osbourne
Maestro Linden If there server crashes and comes back... all the chat conferences then work for a time, but at some stage they go back to all being broken.. this also happens at the place called Scordhing sands... its well known by all people that chat is broken there
Maestro Linden
Bodhi Osbourne: Alright, I was able to reproduce the failure to receive conference chat messages in that particular, region and was able to find a few other regions across the grid with the same issue. The nature of the bug is that your avatar's presence in the region isn't established properly, which causes that secondary symptom of regular IMs from friends in remote regions being treated as though you were offline.
The one thing I haven't been able to reproduce is the appearance of extra/unexpected avatars in a conference at creation time.
Bodhi Osbourne
Maestro Linden that’s an odd one. It doesn’t happen every time but it does happen and usually when that happens the people that you want to chat with aren’t in the chat but other people are even people you don’t know might be in there and you have to manually add the people you want to have a chat with the other people don’t get their messages though their names are just there but they’re not actually there if that’s able to be understood. I’m not sure. I’m explaining it right but I mean the other people don’t get any other messaging it’s like theyre ghosts.