‘Image’ taken of outfits functions for a few days, then vanishes
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AAngel Braveheart
The free right-click image on an outfit on an avatar is very useful.
I am show dancer, so changing outfits is fast and furious. The images help a lot.
However recently they disappear randomly. Especially the newer ones I did a week ago, yet some (not all) of the images I took 6-9 months ago are still there.
Q: Why are the images vanishing? Browser: Firestorm.
Fixation required !!!
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Maestro Linden
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Maestro Linden
Hi AAngel Braveheart, I have a few questions about what you're seeing:
- You're talking about the "Inventory item preview" feature which allows one to set a thumbnail image on an inventory item or inventory folder, correct? Or are you talking about images set somewhere else (like on the face of a box that contains the outfit items)?
- Are the thumbnail images in question attached to the subfolders in "My Outfits", or to the individual inventory items?
- How are you setting the thumbnail images in question? Are you using the "Image..." -> "Use snapshot tool" path, or are you setting them some other way, such as selecting a texture that you already have in inventory?
- What's your full environment information? Could you please post the 'About Firestorm' info text if you're on a Firestorm version? This issue could be a viewer bug.
- It seems possible that the image upload for the thumbnail is failing, but that your viewer keeps the image in its local cache until the cache is purged. If you set a fresh thumbnail image on an inventory item, exit the viewer, delete the cache, then login again, does the new viewer session still show the thumbnail?
I can't immediately reproduce this issue with some outfits when I use Second Life Release 7.2.1.17108480561 (64bit) or Firestorm 7.1.13 (78266) Jun 14 2025 21:15:38 (64bit / AVX2) (Firestorm-Releasex64), including when clearing cache. I'm making a note if which thumbnails I added, so I can check back on them in a few days.
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro Linden Yes, about the "Inventory item preview" feature which allows one to set a thumbnail image on an inventory item or inventory folder, correct?
I use a right click, then ‘Image” on an outfit folder and or in appearances.
(#2 OPTION, never #3 as mentioned above at $10 each)
I have not cleared any cache and worried I might loose hundreds of outfit images if I try that. Why on earth would that be a feature?
Just found outfits made three years ago still with thumbnail images functioning and the ones I made 2 weeks ago have vanished.
I will add my system details later, it is a high powered gaming machine, this is an ipad with the awful mobile app.
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro Linden Firestorm 7.1.13 (78266) Jun 14 2025 21:43:13 (64bit / AVX2) (Firestorm-Releasex64) with Havok support
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Disk cache: Max size 2048.0 MB (79.5% used)
Built with MSVC version 1943
October 14 2025 11:26:44 SLT
Maestro Linden
AAngel Braveheart: Thanks for the viewer info. That matches the Firestorm build that I'm testing with (but haven't reproduced the bug on yet).
Regarding 'clear cache', the cache in the SL viewer contains a copy of the recently-fetched texture, mesh, and object assets on your hard drive. As new assets are fetched to the cache, older assets are routinely deleted from it so that the total size remains under the "cache size" limit in the viewer settings. The 'clear cache' operation deletes the local copy of the cache from your hard disk, but does not affect the source copies of the data on the asset server. Clearing cache can be helpful if your local copy of the cache is corrupted somehow.
To investigate this issue further, I'd like to look at some folders in your inventory that you have recently added preview images to (with the images still present). I'm hoping to (1) see if the folders' images are set properly on the inventory database and (2) have some sort of reference if these folders lose their images unexpectedly. Could you please give me some example folder names with that set? Any folder should work, as long as you're not planning to intentionally remove its preview image.
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro LindenI will get on with your suggestion.
Just rather busy schedules at the moment.
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro Linden Ok, Before cache clearance, This is preview outfit image is fine https://prnt.sc/AC-4revlE2Mk
X35-LeiMotiv Heaven Dress WHITE - from Edith
This preview image outfit vanished X35-ArisArisB&W~ArAy14~WIDOW POISON OUTFIT~HALLOWEEN
Image taken 3 days ago
I will now add a new image https://prnt.sc/exP4HsrwwBGW
This show outfit I made up yesterday and made an outfit image, it has gone! X35-[hh] Valerisse Asymmetrical Dress - M&G Edith
This image has also vanished X35-Esther Gown - Blue (POSH)
and X35-Enchantress Vali Denin Jumpsuit Outfit
I will now make an image for the last one, clear the cache, re-log and see.
Normally the outfit stays, disappears after a few days!
AAngel Braveheart
Cleared cache, re-booted.
and re-logging is horribly slow.....
Outfit image X35-Enchantress Vali Denin Jumpsuit Outfit
is still there
will test the others...
X35-Esther Gown - Blue (POSH) - Image has VANISHED
X35-[hh] Valerisse Asymmetrical Dress - M&G Edith - Image has VANISHED
X35-ArisArisB&W~ArAy14~WIDOW POISON OUTFIT~HALLOWEEN
I just re-took the image photo, It is still there
X35-LeiMotiv Heaven Dress WHITE - from Edith
I made this image some time back, it is still there.
So it is recent images that vanish quickly now.
Series 28 are all there (more than a year old)
eg Maitrya 28th- Scandi LAITY SET. Mini skirt
But series 29 are not eg Maitrya 29th Meva Hanna Coat & Margot Boots
(These pre pre -Larax hence the naming series)
I am a premium member, maybe a 1:1 would be easier than this public airing of my show dances (Crystal Edge Troupe)
regards
Angel
Maestro Linden
AAngel Braveheart: Thanks for these specifics. I had captured the data from your Outfits folder both last week (2025-10-14) and just now (2025-10-20), and see the following:
This folder hasn't changed between 2025-10-14 and today, has a valid thumbnail reference attached (which I can load in my viewer when I have an LSL script apply the thumbnail texture asset to an object):
- "X35-LeiMotiv Heaven Dress WHITE - from Edith"
This folder didn't exist in your inventory on 2025-10-14 but does today. It also has a valid thumbnail image attached to it, which I can view:
- "X35-ArisArisB&W~ArAy14~WIDOW POISON OUTFIT~HALLOWEEN"
Per the inventory server, these folders existed on 2025-10-14 remained unchanged until today. They don't currently have a thumbnail associated with them:
- "X35-[hh] Valerisse Asymmetrical Dress - M&G Edith"
- "X35-Esther Gown - Blue (POSH)"
Finally, this folder existed on both 2025-10-14 and also today, but was updated to
gain
a thumbnail image during that time. This change makes sense, given your comments.- "X35-Enchantress Vali Denin Jumpsuit Outfit"
As you can see, the results are a bit all over the place. There might 2 issues here:
- A failure to set the thumbnail properly in some circumstances, such that the viewer is relying on its local cache when it displays the thumbnail.
- A failure to display thumbnails that actually exist on a folder.
Issue (1) might pretty involved to try to get a bug repro for, but (2) should be relatively easy to diagnose.
If you try again, are you still unable to view thumbnails on these folders (which _should_ have them, per the inventory server) ?:
- "X35-LeiMotiv Heaven Dress WHITE - from Edith"
- "X35-ArisArisB&W~ArAy14~WIDOW POISON OUTFIT~HALLOWEEN"
If the thumbnails for these outfits still fail to load, could you rez the 'Outfit Thumbnail test' object I've just sent you, and note if the textures appear on that object? The 2 prims are each set to the outfit texture labeled by their floating text. If you can't view the thumbnails on _either_ the inventory folders or on the object, this might be a general asset loading issue.
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro LindenHi, sorry it took a while, busy busy.
I have rezzed the object you sent, one outfit is correct the Widow poison outfit. The Heaven dress White shows the wrong outfit, that is a denim jumpsuit in your image! Plus the outfit above it has now lost the image too. It's in this screen shot. https://prnt.sc/sKqAf0iDP4t5
Appreciate your help
Maestro Linden
AAngel Braveheart: Oops, the
Outfit Thumbnail test
object referenced the wrong thumbnail asset for "X35-LeiMotiv Heaven Dress WHITE - from Edith". I fixed that reference and sent it to you as Outfit Thumbnail test v2
. In any case, are you able to see the textures properly on the object but _not_ as preview images in your inventory? I checked the inventory server again, and the images definitely are set on those outfits folders. If you can't see them in your inventory still, I think we have a viewer bug.
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro Linden Yes I can see both images as also on the Outfit Thumbnail test object v2. However these is no image for: 'X35-LECASTLE Olsun Long Boots, skimpy top & shorts' Outfit or 'X35-Esther Gown - Blue (POSH)' -nor an few older ones like 'X34-LECASTLE Shawty Jeans Outfit LX' to give an example of failed image previews. Shall I make them and see what happens?
Maestro Linden
AAngel Braveheart: Okay, thanks for confirming that the bug does not reproduce with "X35-LeiMotiv Heaven Dress WHITE - from Edith" and "X35-ArisArisB&W~ArAy14~WIDOW POISON OUTFIT~HALLOWEEN".
Please go ahead and add thumbnail preview images to your "X35-LECASTLE Olsun Long Boots, skmpy top & shorts Outfit" and "X35-Esther Gown - Blue (POSH)" outfit folders as additional test cases. I see those folders in your inventory, and it looks like they haven't had thumbnail preview images set on them previously (at least not since I first started looking into this issue on the Oct 14).
AAngel Braveheart
Maestro Linden Done
AAngel Braveheart
Any progress?
Maestro Linden
AAngel Braveheart: I've checked again, and your 'X35-Esther Gown - Blue (POSH)' and 'X35-LECASTLE Olsun Long Boots, skimpy top & shorts Outfit' outfits still have the same preview image attached to it since you first added it on 2025-10-28. Are you seeing different behavior in your viewer?