Users without proper access are able to return objects and send people home from sim
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Mayze Draconia
Avatars are somehow gaining access to a parcel that is not public, and returning objects, and sending everyone home for multiple days in a row. screenshot provided is not my email, but someone that owns objects on my parcel.
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IzzieNox Resident
Maestro Linden Hello. It happened again last night with two suspected avatars triggering the event or at least being present for them.
One arrived and almost immediately people started being teleported away. We IM’ed some of the people teleporting off sim/parcel and they confirmed they were teleported home and had not chosen to leave on their own.
We let it continue to gather more information, before sending the suspected user home and then banning from the parcel and eventually the region.
The first suspect is Mirvah resident
UUID: 3fbe4d5a-dfa7-4852-a5f2-a1b609fd34b5
The second is Chuckecheesespy resident
UUID: 883da772-6faf-4b5e-9643-75e9aeb0ce74
In both instances, the avatar moved from our landing zone which is about 400 m from the main skybox/area and came into the main area. Several avatars were sent home (we can provide examples if needed).
This is the timestamp for when they first entered the region last night, June 29:
[23:26:22] Karlach (mirvah) entered the region (25.44 m).
In addition both of those avatars have a connection to Alavandier Dragonheart, who owns a group - Coven of Amaranth. Mirvah is a member of the group and the second avatar I listed, their profile photo was uploaded by Alavandier. Other members of the group include avatars that are associated with the original person we banned LogFile.
I submitted reports last night against both individuals whose UUID I listed here and referenced this bug report. I know it might go beyond the scope of this bug report but it’s so aggravating to continually have this happen at our parcel and not have any recourse beyond our own investigation and diligence. We appreciate what you’re trying to investigate and the time you’re taking.
Summer.cutie is examining her items but just last night 2 people were estate banned during the incident (Maddox.victis and Lost.puppy), and in the estate tools, it said it was done by her but she claims to not have done so at all. To not be able to identify what object has the scripts taking action is really not ideal, as you can imagine.
We appreciate what you’re trying to investigate and the time you’re taking.
Maestro Linden
IzzieNox Resident: I can tell from the server logs that it is definitely a scripted object owned by Summer.Cutie that is thrashing the estate ban list, for unknown reasons. The scripted object might be triggering on the presence of new users arriving in the region, but the script itself is ultimately responsible. Our internal diagnostics need to be improved to help identify _which_ scripted object is to blame so that estate managers can return or otherwise disable it.
Maestro Linden
IzzieNox Resident Mayze Draconia : Thanks for the additional context and time info. I do see a mass object return event from June 23 at 10:40PM SLT.
From the simulator logs, I can see that it was actually Summer.Cutie (the estate owner) who triggered the bulk object return. I'm not sure exactly which UI path they took to trigger the return (there are multiple options), but it may have been like a return from 'Top Scripts' in the region/estate tools, or from an object they own calling llReturnObjectsByOwner().
I can see that there's a bug in the message that's sent to object owners for this class of object return: rather than attributing the return to the agent who actually clicked thew 'Return' button (Summer.Cutie in this case), the message incorrectly attributes the return to the parcel owner (Mayze.Draconia).
Mayze Draconia
Maestro Linden the object return event only happened once, the real problem the last week has been the mass sending home of people. Which, suspiciously started after an avatar was upset that i would not unban them from the parcel. They proceeded to threaten "we started with reason". they have never been on the parcel, but the avatars in the report here have said the same things when these sending home events are happening or just happened.
Maestro Linden
Mayze Draconia: Okay, for that we'll need details of specific "teleport home" events: avatar names and times of them being sent home.
Related to what IzzieNox Resident was saying about Vors.DeFarge Mayze.Draconia being added to the ban list of the same parcel that the objects were returned (parcel_id 0dbc64c9-1206-262a-250f-eb0d8911cbc0) , I wasn't able to find any parcel ban events from around 2026-06-23 22:40 SLT until the sim shut down. An object in the parcel did ban a different agent, but I don't know if that was deliberate.
Mayze Draconia
Maestro Linden we had gotten 2 reports of avatars being sent home on 6/25 at 10:46 PM via our in world reporting system. As it's hard to tell who was affected by this, due to people coming and leaving constantly .. here are parcel departures around that time from our tracker.
Format: Departure Date/time, duration on sim, Avatar name
2026-06-25 22:32:53 3559 Sime Stormcrow
2026-06-25 22:32:53 1020 Lost Knickers
2026-06-25 22:32:53 90 Flex Maynard
2026-06-25 22:32:53 45 Mika11 Resident
2026-06-25 22:32:53 45 Keyvoo Resident
2026-06-25 22:33:08 2205 freeman1 Resident
2026-06-25 22:33:08 2145 KimmieWest Resident
2026-06-25 22:33:38 9180 MisakiYuu Resident
2026-06-25 22:33:38 6357 xTzPikachuxTz Resident
2026-06-25 22:34:23 5925 Haruko Sakura
2026-06-25 22:34:23 2549 MichelleMatzen Resident
2026-06-25 22:35:08 6045 INielsIIstainI Resident
2026-06-25 22:36:23 133 Karch Devin
2026-06-25 22:38:23 3600 Bichotita Resident
2026-06-25 22:38:53 732 johnjohnjohnjohn111 Resident
2026-06-25 22:38:53 600 boneUharder Resident
2026-06-25 22:39:23 660 anastasiadallas1 Resident
2026-06-25 22:40:38 1590 Alpha Zombie
2026-06-25 22:40:38 666 Daddy Phantom
2026-06-25 22:41:23 1050 Artorian Resident
2026-06-25 22:41:38 675 Little Growl
2026-06-25 22:41:53 1785 Mesh Monster
2026-06-25 22:41:53 1755 Pure Pixels
2026-06-25 22:41:53 1350 awxv Resident
2026-06-25 22:41:53 1305 Rakean Avon
2026-06-25 22:42:18 6550 Harper Aurelia
2026-06-25 22:42:38 1425 Amy Emms
2026-06-25 22:42:38 495 babyy Ghoul
2026-06-25 22:42:53 74551 SanctuaryWarden Resident
2026-06-25 22:42:53 3510 Gamer Goblin
2026-06-25 22:42:53 1485 GonTalion Resident
2026-06-25 22:42:53 1260 Audie Resident
2026-06-25 22:42:53 555 Audrey Puddles
Mayze Draconia
Maestro Linden regarding the ban, these were the timestamps in local chat that i was sent home and banned.
[2026/06/23 23:00] Second Life: Teleport completed from https://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Kittens%20Palace/225/229/1986
[2026/06/23 23:00] Second Life: The region you have entered is running a different simulator version.
[2026/06/23 23:30] Second Life: Teleport completed from https://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Kittens%20Palace/171/52/35
[2026/06/23 23:30] Second Life: The region you have entered is running a different simulator version.
second ban was from a different parcel on sim, not the original parcel
Afterwards, the sim owner gave both Vors and I estate rights, so it would stop happening
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Maestro Linden
Mayze Draconia: Thanks for those details. I was able to find the ban events, and the un-ban events that happened a bit after. It appears that Summer.Cutie has a scripted object rezzed in the region which (and perhaps still is) doing mass ban and unban in operations in the estate using https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlManageEstateAccess
Unfortunately, the script appears to be operating in "silent" mode, so estate operations aren't being messaged to Summer when they occur. If they're aware of any sort of ban management object, I would recommend they either derez it or at least reset it to so that changes will be sent to the region owner. When messaging is active, a given operation is communicated with a message like this:
The object 'Object' is removing agent ad0aaf7c-fec0-4bdc-ab67-2d62d54ce7f0 from the estate ban list. [Preflight0 (120,141,22)]
IzzieNox Resident
Maestro Linden We're at the parcel/sim now - is there anyway to tell what object it is and who owns it? What parcel it's located on? Coordinates? Anything at all
IzzieNox Resident
Maestro Linden In addition, it was only the first night (June 23) where people were banned. Since that night, there have been other events where 10 or more people were sent home (see Mayze's example from before which are all timestamped on June 25), but were able to return immediately and were not banned.
Maestro Linden
IzzieNox Resident: Unfortunately, I don't have those specifics about the coordinates of the object yet, though it's definitely an object owned by Summer.Cutie (which is I realize is probably not very helpful information).
It looks like the object was most recently active at Jun 28 00:34 to 00:43 SLT, with 133 operations in a burst. It's not obvious what triggers it. It's not an object that was rezzed and immediately took action.
Like the Jun 23 23:00 incident, it's focused on updating the ban list and (bizarrely) has a habit of banning a user only to un-ban them a 2-3 seconds later. I suspect this is why your visitors are finding themselves able to return to the region immediately after.
We are working on getting better internal visibility for this function - preferably something like the details of the object name, position, etc. that gets sent to the viewer when managing estate access in non-silent operation mode.
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Mayze Draconia
Maestro Linden The avatars that had sent the messages to me regarding the whole situation, here are their names and arrival times on sim. not sure what part they took, as we dont know who sent the avatars home, or returned the objects.
DougMcRoachmaster1 Resident
auntiegoblin Resident
GrannyGash Resident
anastasiadallas1 Resident
Format: name, uuid, arrival date/time, departure date/time, duration present
DougMcRoachmaster1 Resident
409c9b98-9efd-4531-8b4c-489d5386a124
Jun 23, 2026 11:10:41 PM
Jun 23, 2026 11:17:26 PM
6m 45s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 23, 2026 11:35:41 PM
Jun 23, 2026 11:37:11 PM
1m 30s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 23, 2026 10:35:41 PM
Jun 23, 2026 11:04:26 PM
28m 45s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 23, 2026 1:05:56 AM
Jun 23, 2026 1:11:26 AM
5m 30s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 23, 2026 12:57:53 AM
Jun 23, 2026 12:58:53 AM
1m 0s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 22, 2026 11:28:28 PM
Jun 23, 2026 12:27:08 AM
58m 40s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 22, 2026 8:20:49 PM
Jun 22, 2026 10:21:49 PM
2h 1m 0s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 22, 2026 7:44:34 PM
Jun 22, 2026 7:50:04 PM
5m 30s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 22, 2026 7:18:04 PM
Jun 22, 2026 7:19:34 PM
1m 30s
auntiegoblin Resident
43675fa6-b600-42fe-a450-d5d67c7f924e
Jun 22, 2026 7:25:49 AM
Jun 22, 2026 7:26:49 AM
1m 0s
Mayze Draconia
Continued
GrannyGash Resident
70c7cf7b-b2b2-4490-8287-d219839e7655
Jun 23, 2026 11:27:41 PM
Jun 23, 2026 11:29:26 PM
1m 45s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 25, 2026 10:52:38 PM
Jun 25, 2026 11:07:13 PM
14m 35s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 25, 2026 10:40:23 PM
Jun 25, 2026 10:52:23 PM
12m 0s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 25, 2026 10:28:23 PM
Jun 25, 2026 10:39:23 PM
11m 0s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 25, 2026 1:04:52 PM
Jun 25, 2026 1:06:07 PM
1m 15s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 25, 2026 1:44:22 AM
Jun 25, 2026 1:54:07 AM
9m 45s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 24, 2026 10:06:21 PM
Jun 24, 2026 10:07:51 PM
1m 30s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 24, 2026 9:25:51 PM
Jun 24, 2026 9:26:06 PM
15s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 24, 2026 7:30:36 PM
Jun 24, 2026 7:52:36 PM
22m 0s
anastasiadallas1 Resident
5874e8fe-52e5-4122-b821-ad2fde53bb6f
Jun 23, 2026 11:10:26 PM
Jun 23, 2026 11:57:36 PM
47m 10s
Maestro Linden
Hi Mayze, I have a few questions:
- Exactly which dates/times did the return event occur at? I see 10:41 PM mentioned as the email timestamp, but I don't know what day it's from. I don't see any records of return events in the Kittens Palace server logs at 10:30-10:41 PM SLT on June 27.
2.What are the names of the avatars who accessed your parcel, and when did you see them there?
The screenshot indicates your avatar was the one returning those objects. As both an estate manager of Kittens Palace, and as the parcel owner of the parcel at 212,274 (the coordinates from the first return operation in the screenshot), you have complete power to return others' objects from the land there. Likewise, any scripted object you have granted https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/PERMISSION_RETURN_OBJECTS to will be able to return objects from that land.
IzzieNox Resident
Maestro Linden Hello. I own the objects that were returned. That is a screenshot from my email that I sent to Mayze and gave him permission to post.
That offline was received at 10:41 PM SLT on June 23. When I first received it, I checked the SL website and Mayze Draconia was not even online.
At the time, he was only the parcel owner, not an estate manager. Mayze can give more info but after I contacted him about the offline, he logged in and confirmed my items had been returned. Both he and another moderator for the club at the parcel, Vors DeFarge, were sent home from the parcel that Mayze himself is the owner of. And then both Vors and Mayze were banned from the parcel. The estate manager rights were given after the initial incident, as a way to combat it.
In addition, the estate owner (summer.cutie) requested a roll back of the entire sim shortly after the initial incident.