Major outages and failures to Process Credits (Multiple Banks/Customers)
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Charlotte Bartlett
Outage issue:
Effective early October 2025, there have been consistent and constant failures to uphold process credit cash outs to customers across multiple banks (inclusive of the US).
Customers are using the Next Day Bank Deposit option.
Paying the fee for said service.
No payment is then made to the customer.
Where a payment is made, it is late and does not adhere to the Next Day Bank Deposit statement and fee paid.
Eventually the USD is silently, without notification to the customer, returned to their USD Balance after being missing in action for days. This is a risk and inappropriate management of fiat currency under customer accounts.
Furthermore, the transaction is then "wiped" from the process credit history under the pending queue. Removing access to customers of a full and proper audit trail of their USD funds during those periods. This effectively obscures the issue "as if it never happened".
Support:
(a) Tickets remain unanswered.
(b) Customers remain with out the ability to tag tickets into prioritized RL financial or tax queues (despite requests at meetings with LL on this exact topic).
(c) Live Chat is barely contactable.
Corporate Governance:
This is an extraordinary lack of governance with inappropriate communication and compliance risk to customers. There are also regulatory components to consider within this. USD funds held on the platform do not receive FDIC insurance.
Scope of Impact:
(a) These are not first time payments, they are payments where the bank accounts have been previously successfully cashed out to.
(b) This is not one customer, folk are sharing their experiences and it indicates a systemic failure impacting multiple elements. This does not appear to be Plaid (contacted their compliance team and they have confirmed not their issue), ACH (no outages during this time has also been confirmed).
Customers:
(a) These are customers who have completed all AML-KYC paperwork and tax forms.
(b) These are customers in the US and International so not restricted to one area.
(c) These are customers who have used the platform for years and who have a history of cashing out so are a known entity.
Remediation sought:
(a) A formal communication and plan should be shared with customers to resolve, including the measures to resolve delayed payments and failure to pay the USD owed to customers.
(b) Go-forward timely communication to customers (email) to be implemented where, and if you, fail to make a payment of USD.
(c) Heightened monitoring of payment risks and your integration with Tilia to ensure payments in USD are made on time going forward to ensure payment obligations are met appropriately. Where a payment is not made on time, a consideration of reduction of the fee charged for said service.
(d) Ensure a clear understanding of regulatory and payment requirements are utilized to ensure compliant under current US regulation and law go-forward.
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Elvina Ewing
I am now having a Payout failure issue. I am trying to withdraw US$ to my bank account and i get "Unknown error occurred (400)" message. I have successfully transferred US$ to this bank account twice in the past.
Is this how you resolved it? By disabling the payout altogether???
Last time, i got the same error. I googled it, and people suggested to use a different browser and try a "private window". It helped last time, and the transaction went through. THIS TIME, nothing helps. I tried 2 different browsers, private windows, mobile, desktop, wifi, mobile internet, i even tried using VPN (with and without it), nothing helps!! The error message persists.
At the bottom of Payout page there is section Tilia >> Customer Service. Clicking that takes you to Thunes website where you can submit a ticket. That is what i have done last time. The reply i got from Tilia: "Thank you for contacting Tilia, a licensed money transmitter that provides end-to-end payments for many platforms such as Second Life. This issue relates to Second Life. For questions or concerns relating directly to the use of Second Life as a product or platform, please contact Second Life Support. "
Then why the hell that option is even there, at the bottom of the Second Life website??? So, now i need to open a normal SL ticket, responding time to which is 1+ month???
I can't believe that i'm paying 200 US$ payout fee for THIS kind of service?!?
Linden Labs, are you not ashamed of yourselves?
PS. I guess you will not even get my 200 US$, because i am unable to transfer money at all. Wouldn't it be in YOUR interest too, to help me out and get the money transfer issue fixed ASAP?
Kermit Linden
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Issue tracked. There was a known outage on the payout provider side last week. There have been no more issues since then, but we are monitoring. Please see future updates here.
Charlotte Bartlett
Kermit Linden. Could you add in when an outage occurs it should be an alert for users who’s transactions fail. Having multiple individual users trying to figure out what is happening is probably stressing the support system further.
Kermit Linden
Merged in a post:
Payouts returned without alerts - We need dashboard messages.
Luova Celestia
I requested payouts to my Wise account, but both times the funds were returned to my balance with no notification or explanation - first on October 3rd and again on October 8th. The first time, I thought I had made a mistake or overlooked something; the second time, I realized something was wrong. I rely on these weekly payments for essentials like food and bills, and having the funds returned without notice has put me in a very stressful situation.
This seems to be affecting multiple creators, and Linden Lab support appears to be aware of it. Had I known beforehand, I would have processed the funds to PayPal instead and
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avoided this situation.We would greatly appreciate clearer information when payouts are returned, such as a message like: "Your payout could not be processed. Please contact Support for assistance." It would also be very helpful to have a dashboard notification for known issues, for example: "Some accounts may be affected by payout issues to Wise. Please consider alternative methods while this is being resolved."
Timely, clear notifications would allow creators to make informed decisions and prevent real-life impacts caused by inaccessible funds. Thank you.
Killer Bae
This has also just happened to me (I attempted a direct bank transfer, never had issues before) and I had no idea there was even an issue until I checked my Tilia balance after realising it had been 4 days since I initiated the transaction. The "Account History" screen is useless because it gives no details about the transaction at all other than that it was transferred to and from escrow.