Allow reporting of demos not marked as demos
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Peter Stindberg
Regrettably, a lot of merchants
still
don't have their demos labelled as demos, so that they can be excluded from search.However, there is no category to report such mis-classifications. We only have:
Disallowed listing practices
- Demo not linked to full version
But we are lacking:
Disallowed listing practices
- Demo not classified as demo
In order to help sanitize the Marketplace, users should be able to report those things.
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Lettie Linden
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Proliferation of Demo Items
RedVelvetClub Resident
I just tried to search for an item and I clicked to not show Demo items. I worked my way through 20 pages and every item in those 20 pages was a Demo item. My solution would be to not allow Demos on Marketplace. Any good clothing item should have a Demo and that should just be an option when purchasing instead of having a separate ad for the Demos. In a lot off ways it makes Marketplace totally useless. I gave up looking for the item I was searching for after having to go through all those 20 pages and I'm sure most other people give up too.
Dana Enyo
Nope; I do some special things with demos (as do some others). For example, if an outfit has multiple pieces, the Demo may have a different color of each piece so the customer gets more information. (If there are items for multiple bodies i'll mix the colors up even more.) The Demo might have something they can keep and use (like a BoM layer) and I want to explain that on the Demo page. I would not be able to explain anything if "Demo" was just a checkbox on the Item page.
What DOES need to happen is that "No Demos" filter needs to WORK. But I have pretty good luck setting a minimum price to something like 10L when I search.
Beatrice Voxel
I'd support demo's being linked to the product listings rather than being separate listings (flagged as demos, or in this case, not).
Something like :
[Add To Cart]
[Add as Gift]
[Buy Now]
[Try Demo]
This could either add the demo to your cart, OR send it to you immediately, possibly while still keeping the product page open.
CalamityClowie Resident
At first I was against "Not allow Demos on Marketplace" but I think its the phrasing. I don't think you're trying to remove Demos entirely from MP, but change how they are obtained... Having them not appear in search and instead have a demo selectable to obtain when looking at the product page. The reporting may need to be improved too since there are way too many "Demo" or "Gift" items for prices other than 0L.
Tinker Pixels
Not a fix but a workaround. I usually set minimum price to L$2 when searching to truly filter out the demos.
Rinaldo Debevec
Tinker PixelsYes, but then you will miss the legitimateL$0 and L$1 freebies.
RedVelvetClub Resident
Another option would be to allow a boolean search. Being able to type a -demo in the search box would get rid of 95% of the problem.
juliet Avon
Or an option that for us creators when we list on mp, a check box, that´s a demo and then the ¨do not show demo¨ in search worked as intended
Beatrice Voxel
RedVelvetClub Resident That's exactly how you do this. A + sign is an AND conditional, a - sign is a NOT conditional. A term with neither is an OR conditional.
But that only filters out the listings with the word "Demo" in them someplace, not an actual 'demo' flag (which the exclude checkbox is supposed to filter out).
Everian Hexem
The example flag listed here
is
the correct flag for this. Demos are marked as demos by linking them to a full product. So if it's not linked, it escapes the filter and doesn't show as a demo. Dishonest merchants use this so it shows up in your search anyway, and that's why it's under disallowed listing practices.primerib1 Resident
Everian Hexem Thanks! Did not realize that's how things work; I thought it's just a simple checkbox "This is a demo item" and linking to the Full Version is optional / orthogonal to that.
Everian Hexem
primerib1 Resident No problem! It's definitely one of those things you have no means or reasons to know if you don't list on the mp, and I'd agree it's a bit obtuse in the wording. Changing it to say something like "demo not marked as demo" would make it easier to understand for the average person, and thus get more of this content caught by reports.
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quadrapop Lane
being able to use boolean search terms would help a LOT "-DEMO" was once a thing back in the Pre LL owned marketplaces, allowing boolean search modifiers on MP search would make it possible to trim down searches to specific things much more easily than the current clunky methods
Celestine Ghiardie
quadrapop Lane You need to use "NOT" - so write your search term then add " NOT DEMO NOT Demo NOT demo" That usually does it for me
primerib1 Resident
Celestine Ghiardie to the best of my knowledge, the exclusion happens case-insensitively. So a simple "NOT demo NOT demos" should work.
HOWEVER
Some people are naming their items like this:
"DEMO_black"
That doesn't get filtered out by "NOT demo NOT demos".
Celestine Ghiardie
primerib1 Resident Yep - that one is tough to catch with the boolean search terms for sure.
Caelan Whimsy
I have learned to search for items that cost at least $L1. Trouble is, I end up looking at demos that cost, and missing freebies and gifts that don't. It would definitely be nice to be able to report demos that are not marked.
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