Create Desktop Screen Mode for SL Marketplace
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SarahKB7 Koskinen
Recent changes were made to benefit those using SL Marketplace with mobile phones in portrait mode. But Second Life is still largely used by a majority of desktop computer users and the SL Marketplace should mirror that too.
The recent changes have negatively affected the way SL Marketplace now appears on desktop computer screens, with two-thirds of a desktop screen now having wide empty side borders which are left unused and wasted.
Please introduce a Desktop Screen Mode option to SL Marketplace, allowing the entire width of a desktop monitor screen to be utilised, with a wide variety of screen size options too, just as the SL Viewer already has.
Attached are images of how SL Marketplace currently appears on a Desktop PC Windows 11 (16:9 screen, 1920x1080) and how I would improve SL Marketplace's UI to allow the full width of a screen to be utilised, with a "Screen Size" option button added.
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Cackle Amore
It was painful watching the mobilephonification of the marketplace in real time.
The most jarring and confusing part to me was when they shoved all the buttons on the top bar into a drop down. Used to be able to just quickly get around the merchant pages and my store with just one click, but now they're in a drop down in a drop down.
A very first world problem but I still don't really understand why they changed it like that and left the top banner so barren.
Beatrice Voxel
Let's not limit it to Marketplace - the feedback site itself has more gutter space than a bowling alley!
My browser is taking up half of a widescreen 5120 by 1440 px screen, and this is what this specific discussion looks like in Chrome.
See all that black space? That's not efficient use of screen real estate.
So I suspect this isn't just a Marketplace thing. Somewhere in the LL web design doctrine (or perhaps a 'default' CSS sheet that gets attached to every web document written by LL staff), these margins are baked in as approved design. That's what needs be changed, so that mobile platforms with limited screen space work in a small footprint, but also desktop browsers get full use of their larger footprint.
Cackle Amore
Beatrice Voxel
I can't really fault them for the UI of this website itself. That's on Canny itself, they're just using their services as a feedback template site.
Cynos3D Resident
Would be nice if it was capable of taking advantage of Ultrawide formats like 21:9 and greater, more items width wise and less scrolling would be fantastic or perhaps larger icons for those of us with diminishing eyesight.
J
Juniper Linden
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Hi SarahKB7 Koskinen,
We've written a blog post with some updates on the marketplace redesign that's are in flight.
Feel free to read it as it has some more information regarding this particular ticket you've posted about.
SarahKB7 Koskinen
Juniper Linden I hope you'll also remove those catagory icons in the Desktop version, they're unnecessary and just look silly and childish.
Lone Wanderer
SarahKB7 Koskinen I don't care about 'childishness', I prefer ease of access. Iconography can make it faster to see categories at a glance, or give a feel for what they are. Just be glad they aren't colourful pictures like used to be the norm in applications in the windows XP and Vista era. Useability was at the forefront then, rather than the minimalist monotoned things we get now in design. I have many other little things I could nitpick on the site, but that's not one of them. Things could be done to make them more aesthetically appealing of course, like making them a little more faded so they stand out less.
Zalificent Corvinus
Juniper Linden
The blog post is... Meaningless.
On a 16:9 screen, your web devs WASTE 40% of the screen on "dark gutters" because... Other web devs made the same mistake elsewhere...
The mobile viewer is a failure, 99.99% of your users log in to SL with a COMPUTER, so you redesign the Marketplace so it's optimised for... People who don't use computers.
Then to add insult to injury, you tell the computer users they have to see a mobile-fail format portrait site with gutter-waste, because it's popular with bad web designers at other companies.
And you add those stupid pictograms for the categories, but remove the number of search hits for each category, replacing functionality with foolish appeasement.
NONE of the format changes during the last year or so have been worth a damn, just change for the sake of making a change.
Toothless Draegonne
Zalificent Corvinus
Not all unused space is wasted space. To use Amazon as an example of "done right", even they have blank parts at the edges for a lot of sections.
Thing is, most people just don't like to have to scan an entire monitor width. Their attention is on the middle of the screen, so that's where you put the stuff that needs the focus.
Now this doesn't mean never use the entire width. Related items, promoted items and maybe an added browsing history section could easily be made a full-width side-scroller,
just like Amazon
. However, having a huge 21:9 page filled with items would be a horrible experience when you want to scan through a page that scrolls vertically.J
Juniper Linden
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Desktop Screen Mode for SL Marketplace
SarahKB7 Koskinen
Recent changes were made to benefit those using SL Marketplace with mobile phones in portrait mode. But Second Life is still largely used by a majority of desktop computer users and the SL Marketplace should mirror that too.
The recent changes have negatively affected the way SL Marketplace now appears on desktop computer screens, with two-thirds of a desktop screen now having wide empty side borders which are left unused and wasted.
Please introduce a Desktop Screen Mode option to SL Marketplace, allowing the entire width of a desktop monitor screen to be utilised, with a wide variety of screen size options too, just as the SL Viewer already has.
Attached are images of how SL Marketplace currently appears on a Desktop PC Windows 11 16:9 screen (1920x1080) and how I would improve SL Marketplace's UI to allow the full width of a screen to be utilised, with a "Screen Size" option button added.